Re: Doctor Who [9]

by Mrs Figg Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:17 pm

moving swiftly on,

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:22 pm

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by Mrs Figg Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:34 pm

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by **Orwell** Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:35 pm

Loved this Episode. Hooray for the new Doctor! cheers

by **Orwell** Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:38 pm

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

Good to see you back enjoying your Who Orwell.

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:52 pm

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by The Archet Bugle Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:37 am

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by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:50 pm

Its a strangely emotive subject Who- the Who threads on here are probably the most contentious threads, including the BBST, but its nothing to the arguments and passion that can rain down on a dedicated Who forum. pale

by malickfan Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:04 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Its a strangely emotive subject Who- the Who threads on here are probably the most contentious threads, including the BBST, but its nothing to the arguments and passion that can rain down on a dedicated Who forum.

Yeah some of the other forums I've come across get disturbingly worked up about the show, it's not perfect and I think discussing/taking the mickey out of the bad eps is part of the fun, but you do start to wonder why people even still watch the show when they spend six pages ranting about every minute detail. The most common form of critism seems to me, to be rather broad-alot of people seems to get annoyed with the show not for being bad, but for not being the show they want it to be, Doctor Who is about change, even if it dosen;t always work I'd rather they'd take risks than go stale.

I enjoy the bits of the show I like, I don't get worked up at the bits I don't-if it's total crap in your eyes then why continue watching it religiously?

by David H Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:25 pm

I confess... In a moment of weekness I opened a spoiler {{Maybe more than one... Embarassed

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So. A good Dalek???
And combined with a good Silurian and a silly little Sontaran. Suspect

Add to the list that scene from a couple seasons ago when all the Baddies in the Universe hold hands and sing Kumbaya around the Pandorica.... pale

What does it all mean? Don't people want their villains to be bad anymore? scratch

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:29 pm

Show me a long running tv series where every episode and character is perfect- they dont exist.
And the good thing with Who is if you dont like the current direction you can always go watch 50 years of back catalogue until it changes again and you might like that take on it.

I dropped out for over a series during RTD era, but came back to it and loved it again once Moffat took over. But I nver stopped watching Who, I ws just watching classic Who instead.

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David- thats the problem with reading spoilers- it can lead to erroneous conclusions.

by **Amarië** Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:34 pm

We saw it yesterday

and I must say:

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:51 pm

Amarie-

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by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:35 pm

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by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:40 pm

Mmm I had not considered that- an intriguing idea

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by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:45 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Show me a long running tv series where every episode and character is perfect- they dont exist.
And the good thing with Who is if you dont like the current direction you can always go watch 50 years of back catalogue until it changes again and you might like that take on it.

I dropped out for over a series during RTD era, but came back to it and loved it again once Moffat took over. But I nver stopped watching Who, I ws just watching classic Who instead.

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David- thats the problem with reading spoilers- it can lead to erroneous conclusions.

I think the show causes people to go a bit gaga. My pov is I got to care about some of the characters, Eccleston, Tennant, Rose, Donna, Wilf, they are so endearing and their adventures are so involving that when they go and the show seems to be going downhill, then it is upsetting. I loved RTDs era and now I feel the magic has largely gone, and recently in Smiths era I got a bit bored and frustrated, and sometimes cheesed off by crappy writing for women. But it is ever evolving and change is good as long as the new stuff is creative and entertaining. I have hopes for Capaldi but something is missing as of yet, maybe next episode the magic will return.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:53 pm

Just shows how differently people can view things.
For me 9 and 10 were a sort of Who-lite, it was played incredibly safe in every way and lacked the edge of classic and the risk taking.
As Moffat returned the show ever closer to original style and started taking bigger risks with the formatting, story lines, imagery and ideas, it was a breath of classic air to me and the best NUWHo has ever been (I need at least a whole series to judge the 12th on).

Next weeks looks like the first of the light episodes of 12's era- how can it not be with Robin Hood in it! But I have concerns as its a Gatiss episode and I have often found his Who episodes somewhere between lukewarm and nt very good. Crimson Horror is probably my favourite recent ep of his, Night Terrors was just ok, the Dalek episode was the worst episode of series 5 and his stuff for RTD was no better- Lazarus experiment, Idiots Lantern were both a bit meh. His best is probably his first The Unquiet Dead for 9.

by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:59 pm

theres edge and theres faux edge, Eccleston had edge in buckets.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:06 pm

I like Eccy as the Doctor, I thought he fitted the part excellently- but he got let down with some of the writing (One of the reasons he went into a grump over Who and left so quickly was he thought he would be doing social commentary stuff under RTD, not running away from farting aliens- you can kind of see his point. For me only Moffats two parter- the Empty Child, Fathers Day and half of Dalek- really still stands up.

by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:00 pm

nope.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:30 pm

I was mainly agreeing with you about Eccy! Mad

by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:54 pm

by malickfan Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:41 pm

Very interesting (and rather leily unterly false) rumour currently doing the works:

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/horowitz-on-showrunner-rumours-66221.htm

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/01/philip-morris-vs-steven-moffat-on-doctor-who-goes-public-and-will-anthony-horowitz-take-over-the-show/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

https://twitter.com/AnthonyHorowitz/status/506733016874774528

I would take thing with a pinch of salt, Moffat has already stated he has ideas for the season 9 finale (and I seem to recall reading he was currently planning it), Horowitz doesn't have any prior connections to the show as far as I know (I'm not actually familiar with his writing) and himself stated 'unlikely'. I haven't read any of his work, but frankly I wouldn't be that annoyed if Moffat were to step down and be suceeded by someone else so leftfield, I have enjoyed much of Moffat's work on the series, but there's no denying how split the reception has been...though I'd liked Toby Whithouse to get the gig, a totally new showrunner could be a good thing.

(I have no idea if this is genuine or not, Phillip Morris was heavily involved with the restoration of the Classic Dvds wasn't he?, but it does seem kinda, well random...)

(On a side note Horowitz is writing the screenplay for PJ's Tintin sequel)

https://twitter.com/archives1963/status/506712879832518657

Googling away, It does appear to be a load of b*llocks-no real surprise, could be a fun discussion point anyway, be interesting to see what The Sun makes of it...

I did also stumble across this old article, further food for thought:

http://doctorwhoworldwide.com/2013/11/28/eye-of-disharmony-the-chaos-behind-the-scenes-of-doctor-who/

On a side note, have their ever actually been authors writing for the show? I liked Neil Gaiman's work on the series, but TV is a totally different medium...

by Mrs Figg Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:24 pm

omg. I LOVE Horowitz! he would be perfect for Who. He did a series of about 5 books, the first one of them called Ravens Gate, its brilliant, I read it maybe once a year cos I love its atmosphere so much. its scary spooky in a good way...hold on... Googling... yeah the series is called The Power of Five, every one a jem. really recommend his books. bloody brilliant.

tell you what if Horowitz writes for Who, its gonna be the best Who ever! cheers

give even Gaiman a run for his money.